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<blockquote data-quote="slobo777" data-source="post: 6017098" data-attributes="member: 6694877">By my reading of Parry/Protect:&quot;When you are damaged by an attack while you are wielding a weapon or a shield, you can spend expertise dice to reduce the damage.&quot;Damaging spells are not attacks by default (unlike, say 4E). Casting a spell is its own action type, and not an attack action.However, some damaging spells are specifically &quot;attacks&quot;, even sharing rule space with melee and ranged attack rules, that means in a direct reading of the rules, a fighter could reduce damage from:&nbsp;* Armour piercing effect from e.g. Ogres and Minotaurs&nbsp;* Inflict &lt;Type&gt; Wounds. Even on a miss.&nbsp;* Melf's Acid arrow. Including on a miss, and potentially including the additional damage (though I'd probably rule against the latter, as although it was due to an attack, the extra damage was not directlycaused by an attack).&nbsp;* Radiant Lance.&nbsp;* Ray of Enfeeblement&nbsp;* Ray of Frost&nbsp;* Searing Light&nbsp;* Shocking Grasp&nbsp;* Spiritual Hammer&nbsp;* Vampiric TouchRight / wrong? Intended as part of the game, or an oversight that will get tightened up (presumably when mosnters start making magical attacks or get Parry-like abilities). Any variation by spell ?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="slobo777, post: 6017098, member: 6694877"] By my reading of Parry/Protect: "When you are damaged by an attack while you are wielding a weapon or a shield, you can spend expertise dice to reduce the damage." Damaging spells are not attacks by default (unlike, say 4E). Casting a spell is its own action type, and [I]not[/I] an attack action. However, some damaging spells are specifically "attacks", even sharing rule space with melee and ranged attack rules, that means in a direct reading of the rules, a fighter could reduce damage from: * Armour piercing effect from e.g. Ogres and Minotaurs * Inflict <Type> Wounds. Even on a miss. * Melf's Acid arrow. Including on a miss, and potentially including the additional damage (though I'd probably rule against the latter, as although it was due to an attack, the extra damage was not [I]directly[/I]caused by an attack). * Radiant Lance. * Ray of Enfeeblement * Ray of Frost * Searing Light * Shocking Grasp * Spiritual Hammer * Vampiric Touch Right / wrong? Intended as part of the game, or an oversight that will get tightened up (presumably when mosnters start making magical attacks or get Parry-like abilities). Any variation by spell ? [/QUOTE]

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