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<blockquote data-quote="Dakhran the Dark" data-source="post: 498581" data-attributes="member: 1362">I don't see anything wrong with a shield parry, it was actually one of the options in the old Complete Fighters, IIRC.I guess what it boils down to is whether you use the shield as a passive defense (and thus get the armor bonus), or as an active defense (which should then negate the armor bonus, but allow your full number of parries, with a possible bonus to the parry roll depending on shield size).&nbsp; I could see allowing both in my game, and having a character choose which to use.I've actually seen a decent homebrew system where shields were treated as a free active parry for anyone with proficiency in shields.&nbsp; Granted, armor was treated as DR in this system, so the shield parry was the only real effective way to implement shields in the rules.&nbsp; But, if I decide to implement the parry system from Dragon into my 3E, I'd definitely want to add in shield parries as well.&nbsp; Although to be honest, I'm already verging on an overload of house rules as it is...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dakhran the Dark, post: 498581, member: 1362"] I don't see anything wrong with a shield parry, it was actually one of the options in the old Complete Fighters, IIRC. I guess what it boils down to is whether you use the shield as a passive defense (and thus get the armor bonus), or as an active defense (which should then negate the armor bonus, but allow your full number of parries, with a possible bonus to the parry roll depending on shield size). I could see allowing both in my game, and having a character choose which to use. I've actually seen a decent homebrew system where shields were treated as a free active parry for anyone with proficiency in shields. Granted, armor was treated as DR in this system, so the shield parry was the only real effective way to implement shields in the rules. But, if I decide to implement the parry system from Dragon into my 3E, I'd definitely want to add in shield parries as well. Although to be honest, I'm already verging on an overload of house rules as it is... [/QUOTE]

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