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<blockquote data-quote="Doskious" data-source="post: 8491369" data-attributes="member: 86490">Well, generally, yes, you can't apply expertise dice to AC, as AC isn't a rolled value, and expertise dice are only generally described as applying, and stacking, to rolled values.Specific overrides general, though, and the Parrying property, the Duelist Parry and Thrust and Elusive features, and the Parrying Counter combat maneuver specifically say you can, which means ... that you can.The scaling mechanic, rules-as-written, however, still only applies to rolls, no matter how you slice it, and none of the features include verbiage to indicate otherwise.&nbsp; Indeed, the Elusive feature actually explicitly calls out that whenever you use your reaction to Parry an attack using a Parrying weapon (something that is possible to do under RAW only when using a Finesse -- and therefore, in the hands of a 15th level Duelist, a Parrying -- weapon in conjunction with the Parrying Counter combat maneuver), the expertise die to your AC increases by one stage.If, as you've presented it, the general rule for stacking applied, why would Elusive need to call out the feature in that way, rather than simply stating that you gain an expertise die the way that everything else that grants expertise does?To be clear: I'm nearly certain that the RAW interpretation I'm presenting as the logical construction of the actual rules text we have was not the intent of the authors.&nbsp; I do hope that, if that's the case, the whole collection of abilities gets flagged as errata and addressed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Doskious, post: 8491369, member: 86490"] Well, generally, yes, you can't apply expertise dice to AC, as AC isn't a rolled value, and expertise dice are only generally described as applying, and stacking, to rolled values. Specific overrides general, though, and the Parrying property, the Duelist Parry and Thrust and Elusive features, and the Parrying Counter combat maneuver specifically say you can, which means ... that you can. The scaling mechanic, rules-as-written, however, still only applies to rolls, no matter how you slice it, and none of the features include verbiage to indicate otherwise. Indeed, the Elusive feature actually explicitly calls out that whenever you use your reaction to Parry an attack using a Parrying weapon (something that is possible to do under RAW only when using a Finesse -- and therefore, in the hands of a 15th level Duelist, a Parrying -- weapon in conjunction with the Parrying Counter combat maneuver), the expertise die to your AC increases by one stage. If, as you've presented it, the general rule for stacking applied, why would Elusive need to call out the feature in that way, rather than simply stating that you gain an expertise die the way that everything else that grants expertise does? To be clear: I'm nearly certain that the RAW interpretation I'm presenting as the logical construction of the actual rules text we have was not the intent of the authors. I do hope that, if that's the case, the whole collection of abilities gets flagged as errata and addressed. [/QUOTE]

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