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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenris" data-source="post: 2645586" data-attributes="member: 2820">OO,Yeah I am on the science side so there is more money floating around. Most institutions won't accept you if they can't fund you. But usually you're fielding multiple offers. We actually had to sign forms saying that we wouldn't take an outside job as part of our funding packages. But I have all my fees paid for plus I receive a stipend, so I am truly paid to be a student. But if you can get a grant that will pay for your Fees, you are on the right track.Most PhD programs will discourage outside employment, it takes away from your time to do research as nakia has said you have to go to places to do these things. Look for a school that has a large repository of the subjects you liek to cut down on travel. But the big problem you will run into is the dreaded "Normative Time" This is the time line that a department sets down as a guideline and says you should be doen with this program by X date.Nakia's comment about a MA are dead on though. Start there and see if this s what you really want to do . It is a lot, a LOT of time and energy. And to get into a PhD prgram striaght away you often have to demonstrate that you can do graduate level work. But a masters program can give you focus, skills and contacts as Nakia said, as long as it counts it's OK.But money makes many things easier. As Nakia said find the advisor, find the school, see if they will do part time ( part time Masters programs will be MUCH easier to find than PhD) and if you can walk in with grants or get grants (contact the Adult Re-entry programs and Veterans Affairs offices on those campused for some great assistance) that will always smooth the way as it shows you have intiative to get the grants on your own and are motivated to finish as you have a deadline to finish within your grant.FenrisABD: All But dissertation. Very common nomencalture <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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