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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6950979" data-attributes="member: 996">Nod, I had the same issue with 4e, long-time players would step up thinking their experience meant the new 'dumbed-down edition' would be a breeze, and quickly become frustrated, while new players would absorb it easily.  The only things I see long-time players having an issue with in 5e is neo-Vancian casting (everyone's spontaneous, but there's still prep, as well - but, then, new players have at least as much trouble with it) and 'lack of options' (something from an earlier edition they miss).  Logically, if you already know D&D, a new edition is a matter of learning what's new, and un-learning & re-learning what's different.  I can't see why 3e players, in particular, would have much trouble with that, 5e doesn't change that much relative to 3e - the afore-mentioned spellcasting, proficiency instead of BAB/ranks/saves - the biggest shift is one of attitude, really. Yep, I've seen that, too.NP.  I was going for the humor of an intentional call-back with that one.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />BA, like Adv/Dis, seems like one of the most well-received arguably-'new' things in 5e, I don't see much hate for it, at all.</blockquote>