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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5326198" data-attributes="member: 19675">IMHO, there is nothing wrong with letting players getting their PCs killed over and over again using bad tactics.I'd never presume to ask a player NOT to play something or otherwise change their PC unless it was inappropriate for the campaign, such as asking to play an elf in a humans only campaign.But if someone complains or asks why they keep failing, tell them that there may be a problem with their tactics, and open the discussion.  Or you could ask them why they keep choosing the PCs they do.  While the problem seems to be in party makeup, you may be surprised by the conversation.I was on the player side of that equation years ago, in a long established campaign with decade-old PCs, and we asked how to get past a certain obstacle that had utterly kicked our asses.  He told us matter of factly and with a bit of disdain that we needed to use "X" to get past it.  We explained to him that not only did nobody in the party have "X", nobody was even capable of using "X".  Nobody was even close.Your case is different.  The players are on a death carousel, generating and killing PCs over and over again, and not recognizing that the problem may be in PC selection or tactics.If it persists, you may be forced to manufacture a pot detour, but up until you get serious grumblings, I'd say let the killings continue.</blockquote>