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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 4905917" data-attributes="member: 51930">You didn't negatively reinforce poor judgement.&nbsp; You positively punished it.&nbsp; Reinforcers mean that they encourage the repetition of a behavior.&nbsp;&nbsp; Positive reinforcement is giving a treat (xp, treasure, pizza).&nbsp; Negative reinforcement is taking away a punishing factor, alleviating some burden, but not actually giving them good stuff per se.&nbsp; Either way, they're likely to do more of the action that your reinforcer is linked to.Punishers decrease the likelihood of a response.&nbsp; Positive punishers introduce something, like pain or the loss of a character or insults, that decrease the likelihood of doing something again.&nbsp; Negative Punishers take away a good thing, a reward or reinforcing factor.Positive: addNegative: take awayReinforce: they do things morePunish: less likely to do thingsFor the record: they were stupid, you told them they were being stupid, they got bashed.&nbsp; &nbsp; From what you've described, I think you handled this great.&nbsp; You may want to consider new friends.&nbsp; Maybe there are other factors to why you feel bad about this, though, that you haven't mentioned, I don't know.&nbsp; &nbsp; There could be various personal factors for Dave, who was doing something destructive, whether for attention or what have you.&nbsp; Maybe the plot isn't hack n slash enough for him.&nbsp; HOWEVER:&nbsp; what were the stats on this girl?&nbsp; I haven't seen my PCs actually get walloped in 4e.&nbsp; They're not even tanks, but I rarely bloody anyone but the barbarian (who is asking for it).&nbsp;&nbsp; Like really, I've tried.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 4905917, member: 51930"] You didn't negatively reinforce poor judgement. You positively punished it. Reinforcers mean that they encourage the repetition of a behavior. Positive reinforcement is giving a treat (xp, treasure, pizza). Negative reinforcement is taking away a punishing factor, alleviating some burden, but not actually giving them good stuff per se. Either way, they're likely to do more of the action that your reinforcer is linked to. Punishers decrease the likelihood of a response. Positive punishers introduce something, like pain or the loss of a character or insults, that decrease the likelihood of doing something again. Negative Punishers take away a good thing, a reward or reinforcing factor. Positive: add Negative: take away Reinforce: they do things more Punish: less likely to do things For the record: they were stupid, you told them they were being stupid, they got bashed. From what you've described, I think you handled this great. You may want to consider new friends. Maybe there are other factors to why you feel bad about this, though, that you haven't mentioned, I don't know. There could be various personal factors for Dave, who was doing something destructive, whether for attention or what have you. Maybe the plot isn't hack n slash enough for him. HOWEVER: what were the stats on this girl? I haven't seen my PCs actually get walloped in 4e. They're not even tanks, but I rarely bloody anyone but the barbarian (who is asking for it). Like really, I've tried. [/QUOTE]

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