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<blockquote data-quote="DaveDash" data-source="post: 6550160" data-attributes="member: 6786202">What can they do to help out each other?&nbsp; One guy gets swallowed and imminently facing death, how are you going to save him? Or someone else gets held and the caster zips out of sight (or goes Ethereal), now what? Mind Flayer is about to eat your friends brains and its not your turn? Or an enemy spellcaster is about to cast a Meteor Swarm on your group, you have no counter-spell? I just rolled a crit and you're facing 127 damage which will one shot you? (Real game example). You all have the same saving throws and you've just come across a Mind Flayer inquisition, oh what a shame, nice knowing your party there.This is my entire point. I ran some of the best DPR builds know together, but due to lack of mitigation and survivability at the party level, they were able to be picked apart.Also, I don't think you can use your Warlock ability to get Cleric spells back on a short rest. Definitely doesn't feel like RAI to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DaveDash, post: 6550160, member: 6786202"] What can they do to help out each other? One guy gets swallowed and imminently facing death, how are you going to save him? Or someone else gets held and the caster zips out of sight (or goes Ethereal), now what? Mind Flayer is about to eat your friends brains and its not your turn? Or an enemy spellcaster is about to cast a Meteor Swarm on your group, you have no counter-spell? I just rolled a crit and you're facing 127 damage which will one shot you? (Real game example). You all have the same saving throws and you've just come across a Mind Flayer inquisition, oh what a shame, nice knowing your party there. This is my entire point. I ran some of the best DPR builds know together, but due to lack of mitigation and survivability at the party level, they were able to be picked apart. Also, I don't think you can use your Warlock ability to get Cleric spells back on a short rest. Definitely doesn't feel like RAI to me. [/QUOTE]

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