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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6559626" data-attributes="member: 6787650">&quot;Anything they can do, someone else [could have done] better&quot; isn't really a problem in my opinion, since there is always an opportunity cost to anything. Yes, you could get Pass Without Trace with a druid instead of a ranger, but then you'd have weaker ranged damage and no access to Volley AoE effects. You'd have more healing/reincarnation spells (but not more Concentration) and less weapon damage (no Hunter's Mark, no Sharpshooter, no Horde Breaker). You decide for yourself which one you'd rather have, and either way it's a bit of an agonizing decision IMO, which means that WotC did rangers right. Every class has a little bit of something that makes you wish you had one around, but a party only has so many PCs in it...In any case, the ranger's shtick is &quot;3 attacks per round from level 5 onward, with Sharpshooter, and then at level 9 add a pack of wolves and then Volley for AoE&quot;. High-level rangers unfortunately don't add anything great so you'd probably want to multi-class after level 11 or so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6559626, member: 6787650"] "Anything they can do, someone else [could have done] better" isn't really a problem in my opinion, since there is always an opportunity cost to anything. Yes, you could get Pass Without Trace with a druid instead of a ranger, but then you'd have weaker ranged damage and no access to Volley AoE effects. You'd have more healing/reincarnation spells (but not more Concentration) and less weapon damage (no Hunter's Mark, no Sharpshooter, no Horde Breaker). You decide for yourself which one you'd rather have, and either way it's a bit of an agonizing decision IMO, which means that WotC did rangers right. Every class has a little bit of something that makes you wish you had one around, but a party only has so many PCs in it... In any case, the ranger's shtick is "3 attacks per round from level 5 onward, with Sharpshooter, and then at level 9 add a pack of wolves and then Volley for AoE". High-level rangers unfortunately don't add anything great so you'd probably want to multi-class after level 11 or so. [/QUOTE]

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