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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5966045" data-attributes="member: 29398">True; it was always a good idea to make sure the Dragon inflicted its halitosis on someone else. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  But if you could last long enough to get it into melee, dragons became beatable.From running some 4e modules it seems the listed AC values have a pretty wide range but not as bad as 3e.These are critical for handling larger groups but I'm not sure they affect in-party level disparity at all.  Two different issues.In later editions I think you notice it much more if the DM doesn't change things, is the difference; because of the more finely-tuned math.Lanefan</blockquote>