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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7817572" data-attributes="member: 177">Well, they know about days.&nbsp; That some 365 (or whatever number) of days happens to be a &quot;year&quot; to those on the surface does not follow from items that recharge once per day.&nbsp; Or items that recharge once a month.&nbsp; Unless there's a natural cycle that's easily observable by the subetrranean culture, why shoudl they observe it as important, such that they'd count it?That, of course, is also if their items recharge at surface dawn, which they may not.&nbsp; &quot;Dawn&quot; is the time the sun rises over the horizon on the surface - these people aren't on the surface, there is no horizon, and the sun never rises for them.&nbsp; It doesn't make logical (or metaphysical) sense to tie magic to rhythms that the people do not experience.&nbsp; &nbsp; And, we can note interesting bits from nature.&nbsp; The human circadian rhythm, when not reset by bright light (preferably actual sunlight) actually tends to stretch to more like 25+ hours.&nbsp; Over just a month, that would completely dis-join the subterranean day from the surface day.&nbsp; How about the idea that magic items are set to the circadian rhythms of the people around them, or to those of the person they are attuned to?&nbsp; This gets the same effect as &quot;once per day&quot; without clinging to the event that never happens below ground.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7817572, member: 177"] Well, they know about days. That some 365 (or whatever number) of days happens to be a "year" to those on the surface does not follow from items that recharge once per day. Or items that recharge once a month. Unless there's a natural cycle that's easily observable by the subetrranean culture, why shoudl they observe it as important, such that they'd count it? That, of course, is also if their items recharge at surface dawn, which they may not. "Dawn" is the time the sun rises over the horizon on the surface - these people aren't on the surface, there is no horizon, and the sun never rises for them. It doesn't make logical (or metaphysical) sense to tie magic to rhythms that the people do not experience. And, we can note interesting bits from nature. The human circadian rhythm, when not reset by bright light (preferably actual sunlight) actually tends to stretch to more like 25+ hours. Over just a month, that would completely dis-join the subterranean day from the surface day. How about the idea that magic items are set to the circadian rhythms of the people around them, or to those of the person they are attuned to? This gets the same effect as "once per day" without clinging to the event that never happens below ground. [/QUOTE]

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