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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 3653119" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>Are you freakin' kidding me? You're sitting here telling me about the universality of "The Cooperative Party" and the "basic plot" inherent in the game, and then saying that <strong>I'm</strong> the one with a "Continued assumption of the universiality [sic] of your perceeptions [sic] and opinions. Not suprizing [sic]." I mean, seriously?</p><p></p><p>If you think you can bludgeon me with such strict assumptions of what the game is and then claim that <strong>I'm</strong> the one making invalid assumptions about how far-reaching my opinions are, I honestly don't know how to respond to that. I don't know how to be any clearer that your perception of our relative assumptions vis a viz "the universiality of your perceeptions and opinions" is completely a$$-backwards.</p><p></p><p>No, KB, it's not "backtracking". It's called <strong>clarification</strong>. But since you're so clearly wanting to argue and pick a bone with me, it's not "suprizing" that you overlooked that.</p><p></p><p>There are some days when I really, <strong>really</strong> miss the rolleyes smilie. This is one of those days.</p><p></p><p>You're also quite wrong; I'm not talking about a default from which people are diverging from, I'm talking about a default from which people are very strongly pointing out that they will <strong>not</strong> diverge from. I'm surprised that the default is truly as much a default as some claim, since there's <strong>absolutely nothing</strong> inherent in the rules or the books to suggest that play is always cooperative between players nor that it should be, and I'm also surprised that so many people would approach the game from that perspective, since to me that implies a wargaming "tactical" approach to the game, and wargames have been a nearly dead hobby for decades and haven't been a gateway into RPGs since sometime in the mid-70s or so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 3653119, member: 2205"] Are you freakin' kidding me? You're sitting here telling me about the universality of "The Cooperative Party" and the "basic plot" inherent in the game, and then saying that [b]I'm[/b] the one with a "Continued assumption of the universiality [sic] of your perceeptions [sic] and opinions. Not suprizing [sic]." I mean, seriously? If you think you can bludgeon me with such strict assumptions of what the game is and then claim that [b]I'm[/b] the one making invalid assumptions about how far-reaching my opinions are, I honestly don't know how to respond to that. I don't know how to be any clearer that your perception of our relative assumptions vis a viz "the universiality of your perceeptions and opinions" is completely a$$-backwards. No, KB, it's not "backtracking". It's called [b]clarification[/b]. But since you're so clearly wanting to argue and pick a bone with me, it's not "suprizing" that you overlooked that. There are some days when I really, [b]really[/b] miss the rolleyes smilie. This is one of those days. You're also quite wrong; I'm not talking about a default from which people are diverging from, I'm talking about a default from which people are very strongly pointing out that they will [b]not[/b] diverge from. I'm surprised that the default is truly as much a default as some claim, since there's [b]absolutely nothing[/b] inherent in the rules or the books to suggest that play is always cooperative between players nor that it should be, and I'm also surprised that so many people would approach the game from that perspective, since to me that implies a wargaming "tactical" approach to the game, and wargames have been a nearly dead hobby for decades and haven't been a gateway into RPGs since sometime in the mid-70s or so. [/QUOTE]
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