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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7514017" data-attributes="member: 6919838">&quot;I don't think that would work for me. I like that I can use a passive check to make a check secretly in a situation where there's hidden information, like a hidden monster the party doesn't know about.&quot;I will on occasion call for a perception check, often when entering a new type of area and that can stay in effect for their general or passive perception until used.Other times i can use their passive score anyway **if** it is sufficient to spot the &quot;poorly hidden beast.&quot; Much like the Str 8 character does not need to roll to jump the 5' gap. No sense to roll if the result will be success.I must admit tho, i wish 5e had standardized the passive perception to match the optional auto-success rules in the DMG, either one (prof+easy or naked ability score-5.)Matter of fact, defining passive perception as Wisdom Score -5 and not the take 10 it is now (with appropriate animal traits for keen senses giving out disads or such) along with the same optional rule from the DMG doesnt seem bad.It sets up a difference between passive and active (roll plus prof) , allows a way to raise it thats capped with no question that the action oretty much gets you more almost all the time and doesnt make some see the need to jack up DCs for traps and stuff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7514017, member: 6919838"] "I don't think that would work for me. I like that I can use a passive check to make a check secretly in a situation where there's hidden information, like a hidden monster the party doesn't know about." I will on occasion call for a perception check, often when entering a new type of area and that can stay in effect for their general or passive perception until used. Other times i can use their passive score anyway **if** it is sufficient to spot the "poorly hidden beast." Much like the Str 8 character does not need to roll to jump the 5' gap. No sense to roll if the result will be success. I must admit tho, i wish 5e had standardized the passive perception to match the optional auto-success rules in the DMG, either one (prof+easy or naked ability score-5.) Matter of fact, defining passive perception as Wisdom Score -5 and not the take 10 it is now (with appropriate animal traits for keen senses giving out disads or such) along with the same optional rule from the DMG doesnt seem bad. It sets up a difference between passive and active (roll plus prof) , allows a way to raise it thats capped with no question that the action oretty much gets you more almost all the time and doesnt make some see the need to jack up DCs for traps and stuff. [/QUOTE]

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