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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 7514145" data-attributes="member: 463">He wouldn't get to use PP vs hidden doors &amp; traps, by extension from the PHB travel-in-wilderness note that he wouldn't get to spot hidden foes waiting in ambush while distracted by mapping etc. I think a GM who said the PC didn't get to smell the stinky orc, or hear the loud orc, would be a silly GM who has misread what the PHB said there. Though I wouldn't be averse to giving disadvantage/-5 or advantage/+5 to reflect distraction, one's ears &amp; nose don't close off while mapping.IRL if I'm asleep and there's a suspicious noise in the flat, I come awake. A few weeks ago my son tried to go to the bathroom at night without waking me, which sneak attempt my sleeping brain interpreted as &quot;Intruder!&quot; and I bolted awake with a massive adrenaline rush. Obviously my Passive Perception was active!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> The funny thing was that if he hadn't tried to be stealthy, my brain would have registered it as normal activity and I'd have barely stirred.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 7514145, member: 463"] He wouldn't get to use PP vs hidden doors & traps, by extension from the PHB travel-in-wilderness note that he wouldn't get to spot hidden foes waiting in ambush while distracted by mapping etc. I think a GM who said the PC didn't get to smell the stinky orc, or hear the loud orc, would be a silly GM who has misread what the PHB said there. Though I wouldn't be averse to giving disadvantage/-5 or advantage/+5 to reflect distraction, one's ears & nose don't close off while mapping. IRL if I'm asleep and there's a suspicious noise in the flat, I come awake. A few weeks ago my son tried to go to the bathroom at night without waking me, which sneak attempt my sleeping brain interpreted as "Intruder!" and I bolted awake with a massive adrenaline rush. Obviously my Passive Perception was active!! :D The funny thing was that if he hadn't tried to be stealthy, my brain would have registered it as normal activity and I'd have barely stirred. [/QUOTE]

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