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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7331078" data-attributes="member: 6787503">Okay, got it! So they aren't searching for elves as they march. But they aren't engrossed in any other distracting activity either, if I'm understanding you correctly. In that case, I would assume a normal level of watchfulness and consult their passive Perception in resolving any attempts to remain hidden in their presence that may be in doubt. I imagine orc troops to be reasonably disciplined enough to remain alert for danger as they march, although they may be apt to barrel along at a fast pace, imposing disadvantage on their passive Perception score.I think a distinction rightly needs to be made between searching for some specific hidden thing, and generally staying alert for danger. For your passive Perception to matter, you don't need to be doing the former, but you must be doing the latter.</blockquote>