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<blockquote data-quote="SirAntoine" data-source="post: 6502928" data-attributes="member: 6731904">Maybe use it only for extra clues, which everyone will find if they take the time to search and roll.&nbsp; In this way, let's say the PC's enter a room, and you look at passive perception to tell if they a loose tile in the floor or a wand lying on the desk.&nbsp; For a monster trying to use stealth, in the narrative for the module the writer can establish which monsters are right on the edge of detection.&nbsp; Those and only those can be noticed with a passive check, and the DM would have to designate a PC like this for a monster to notice them.The passive perception can be very useful when the DM doesn't mean to challenge you.&nbsp; Every trap doesn't have to be discovered with a search if the players are regularly searching, but for a trap that they might not find even if they search for it you shouldn't use passive perception.&nbsp; The question then becomes do you tell your players when they should make a roll, because that will alert them to a challenge?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SirAntoine, post: 6502928, member: 6731904"] Maybe use it only for extra clues, which everyone will find if they take the time to search and roll. In this way, let's say the PC's enter a room, and you look at passive perception to tell if they a loose tile in the floor or a wand lying on the desk. For a monster trying to use stealth, in the narrative for the module the writer can establish which monsters are right on the edge of detection. Those and only those can be noticed with a passive check, and the DM would have to designate a PC like this for a monster to notice them. The passive perception can be very useful when the DM doesn't mean to challenge you. Every trap doesn't have to be discovered with a search if the players are regularly searching, but for a trap that they might not find even if they search for it you shouldn't use passive perception. The question then becomes do you tell your players when they should make a roll, because that will alert them to a challenge? [/QUOTE]

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