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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9889008" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>I was describing the types of Prcs and using 3e Prcs as references.</p><p></p><p>The 3e Arcane Archer is just a Fighter twist. Its just 6 feat level class featuress at the same Fighter progression. </p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Enchance Arrow</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Imbued Arrow</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Seeker Arrow</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Phase Arrow</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Hall of Arrows</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Death Arrow</li> </ol><p>The5e AA is a subclass because what SIX FEATS. No one </p><p></p><p>Arcane Archer is not like Shadowdancer because Shadowdancer has and is built around Hide in Plain Sight. HIPS is too OP at low level.</p><p></p><p>Thats the main issue.</p><p></p><p>For every class except ranger, your Tier Bump Power Spike comes from your base class. Subclass and Feats just augment your Tier Bump Power Spike.</p><p></p><p>This is why multiclasses stinks unless you powergame. You miss or delay your Tier Bump Power Spikes.</p><p></p><p>For Prestige classes to work in 5e, a PrC has to replace your 5th level and 11th level Tier Bump Power Spike.</p><p></p><p>Most 3e Prestige Classes weren't designed to have Tier Bump Power Spike. 3e's power came from Base Attack Bonus and Spell Level advancements. That doesnt translate to 5e as Extra attack and spell level come from base class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 9889008, member: 63508"] I was describing the types of Prcs and using 3e Prcs as references. The 3e Arcane Archer is just a Fighter twist. Its just 6 feat level class featuress at the same Fighter progression. [LIST=1] [*]Enchance Arrow [*]Imbued Arrow [*]Seeker Arrow [*]Phase Arrow [*]Hall of Arrows [*]Death Arrow [/LIST] The5e AA is a subclass because what SIX FEATS. No one Arcane Archer is not like Shadowdancer because Shadowdancer has and is built around Hide in Plain Sight. HIPS is too OP at low level. Thats the main issue. For every class except ranger, your Tier Bump Power Spike comes from your base class. Subclass and Feats just augment your Tier Bump Power Spike. This is why multiclasses stinks unless you powergame. You miss or delay your Tier Bump Power Spikes. For Prestige classes to work in 5e, a PrC has to replace your 5th level and 11th level Tier Bump Power Spike. Most 3e Prestige Classes weren't designed to have Tier Bump Power Spike. 3e's power came from Base Attack Bonus and Spell Level advancements. That doesnt translate to 5e as Extra attack and spell level come from base class. [/QUOTE]
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