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<blockquote data-quote="2WS-Steve" data-source="post: 424516" data-attributes="member: 3289">There's also &quot;Occult Lore&quot; by Atlas and &quot;Spells and Magic&quot; by Bastion Press.Occult Lore has the distinction of having Keith Baker, one of the WotC &quot;Final 3&quot; as a contributing writer. Both of these books include a lot of variant spellcasting classes.Relics and Rituals 1 and 2 include lots of items and spells plus some prestige classes.Frankly, I haven't been disappointed by any of the magic books I've picked up so page count to price ratio might be a reasonable way to go. If Ryan Dancey were still doing retail sales he'd probably offer a special Magic Christmas package including all currently available magic books at a significant discount (especially older items); maybe a retail outlet would be willing to do so...If you want new spells and PrC's probably best to go with the R&amp;R books, BoEM, or Path of Magic. For variant casters Magic, Spells and Magic, or Occult Lore are the best route. I'm not sure where Spells and Spellcraft fits.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="2WS-Steve, post: 424516, member: 3289"] There's also "Occult Lore" by Atlas and "Spells and Magic" by Bastion Press. Occult Lore has the distinction of having Keith Baker, one of the WotC "Final 3" as a contributing writer. Both of these books include a lot of variant spellcasting classes. Relics and Rituals 1 and 2 include lots of items and spells plus some prestige classes. Frankly, I haven't been disappointed by any of the magic books I've picked up so page count to price ratio might be a reasonable way to go. If Ryan Dancey were still doing retail sales he'd probably offer a special Magic Christmas package including all currently available magic books at a significant discount (especially older items); maybe a retail outlet would be willing to do so... If you want new spells and PrC's probably best to go with the R&R books, BoEM, or Path of Magic. For variant casters Magic, Spells and Magic, or Occult Lore are the best route. I'm not sure where Spells and Spellcraft fits. [/QUOTE]

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