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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 6789303" data-attributes="member: 1210">Ah, but the damage tradeoff isn't that simple, actually. Bear in mind that the extra damage for the amoker applies on each attack, so once you're 5th level you're getting it twice a round. So it actually (with the right weapon) comes out doing more damage (I think) after lvl 5. Compare a Str 20 berserker with a greataxe doing 3 attacks for 1d12+5 (total of 3d12+15, average 34) with an amoker doing two attacks for 2d12+5 each (total 4d12+10, average 36)- there's a slight edge to the amoker after level 5. I call that a wash overall on damage, with the reach giving the edge to the amoker. Then again, a berserker gets improved damage resistance from rage while in a frenzy, which probably evens out with the reach + slight damage edge.Another thing to note: when you're amok and huge or greater, you're immune to things that specifically target 'humanoids' such as hold person.</blockquote>