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<blockquote data-quote="Don Durito" data-source="post: 8143051" data-attributes="member: 6687260"><p>I haven't looked at it. Perhaps I should. But it's not really that I need a game that's written in a player friendly way to learn. I want it to be a little more friendly to play.</p><p></p><p>For examples Iterative attacks should not still be around in their current form. They're overcomplicated and lead to time being wasted rolling additional attacks that often only hit on a natural 20. Trailblazer proposed one simpler solution years ago. Two attacks at -2 at BAB 6 reducing the penalty to -1 at BAB 11 and 0 at BAB 16.</p><p></p><p>I simplified them by drawing on 13th Age's Ranger Mechanic. At BAB 6 you get to make a second attack at full BAB if your D20 roll on your first attack is an even number, and then you just get two attacks at full BAB at BAB 11. Both solutions are pretty much mathematically equivalent to the original (except at extremes)</p><p></p><p>This is Paizo's attempt to offer a way to remove Iterative Attacks.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Seriously that's just awful.</p><p></p><p>There's some things that were done right. For example, the Unchained Barbarian has a far more user friendly version of Rage then the the Core one or the 3.X one.</p><p></p><p>Much more in that direction is needed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Don Durito, post: 8143051, member: 6687260"] I haven't looked at it. Perhaps I should. But it's not really that I need a game that's written in a player friendly way to learn. I want it to be a little more friendly to play. For examples Iterative attacks should not still be around in their current form. They're overcomplicated and lead to time being wasted rolling additional attacks that often only hit on a natural 20. Trailblazer proposed one simpler solution years ago. Two attacks at -2 at BAB 6 reducing the penalty to -1 at BAB 11 and 0 at BAB 16. I simplified them by drawing on 13th Age's Ranger Mechanic. At BAB 6 you get to make a second attack at full BAB if your D20 roll on your first attack is an even number, and then you just get two attacks at full BAB at BAB 11. Both solutions are pretty much mathematically equivalent to the original (except at extremes) This is Paizo's attempt to offer a way to remove Iterative Attacks. Seriously that's just awful. There's some things that were done right. For example, the Unchained Barbarian has a far more user friendly version of Rage then the the Core one or the 3.X one. Much more in that direction is needed. [/QUOTE]
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