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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8235985" data-attributes="member: 12731">This ties into a greater frustration I have, and now I'm obviously no longer addressing Retreater, which is the present current in gamer discourse where it's almost as if people are surprised by what fantasy role-playing games really is about. It's about killing others* and taking their loot. Yep you heard that right, and in your heart you know it's true.Somehow this upsets people as if it's something new. It's as if current gamers want to have the cake (everybody is equal) and eat it (still have exciting fights to the death). I really can't understand this so-called logic, where games scramble to "fix" issues of otherism* while still remaining the same murder simulator at the core! Yes, rape and plunder, discrimination and inequality is bad. But I refuse to get upset about, say, gender issues as long as every successful max-level hero will have ended the lives of hundreds of creatures, likely including dozens of intelligent human(oids).*) Apparently, and yes, I was surprised by this, the definition of "otherism" is a positive one: "Regard for the rights, welfare, and point of view of others." I'm of course using the term in its contemporary meaning, which AFAIK essentially is the exact opposite. Just telling you this so you know I know what the term means, and yes, I find it entirely good and refreshing that we clean out our own society of prejudice. I just can't understand why you would want to play in the fantasy genre if you cannot accept prejudice in a made-up world, since that is essentially the entire reason for having it. At least I play in the fantasy genre because I want to revel in the fantasy of my character being better, richer, stronger and more successful than everybody else, even though this basically proves every stupid idea from phrenology onwards to be literally correct and physically provable within the game world. tl;dr: Yes, in fantasy gaming some people are just straight-up better than others. Deal with it.</blockquote>

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