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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 7818905" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>I hate this sentiment. That's not meant to be a slam against you, JeffB, but the idea of "this is what the designers <em>really</em> wanted to do all along...and now, they finally can," always makes me roll my eyes, because it's such transparent marketing-speak that's rarely, if ever, true.</p><p></p><p>I remember how Monte Cook, something like twelve to fifteen years ago, seemed to be on the verge of exiting the game industry multiple times. And each time was punctuated by a release that was always accompanied by some variation of "this is the book I always dreamed of writing." First it was Ptolus. Then Monte Cook's World of Darkness. Then the Book of Experimental Might. Then the Book of Experimental Might II. And that was far from the end of his game-writing career.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to pick on Monte, of course. And I'm probably misremembering the specifics of the chatter that accompanied the releases of those books. But the larger point still stands: in ten years or so, when Pathfinder 3 comes out, we'll be hearing about how <em>this</em> was the game Jason Bulmahn wanted to design all along, that this is Pathfinder as it was originally intended to be, etc...and then there'll be a Pathfinder 4 ten years after that.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I'm wrong, and this really is the last Pathfinder, but I honestly don't think so. I think that at this point Paizo is simply on a ten-year plan of putting out editions so that they can reset the supplement treadmill, and the idea of "this is <em>true</em> Pathfinder" is just empty marketing that goes along with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 7818905, member: 8461"] I hate this sentiment. That's not meant to be a slam against you, JeffB, but the idea of "this is what the designers [I]really[/I] wanted to do all along...and now, they finally can," always makes me roll my eyes, because it's such transparent marketing-speak that's rarely, if ever, true. I remember how Monte Cook, something like twelve to fifteen years ago, seemed to be on the verge of exiting the game industry multiple times. And each time was punctuated by a release that was always accompanied by some variation of "this is the book I always dreamed of writing." First it was Ptolus. Then Monte Cook's World of Darkness. Then the Book of Experimental Might. Then the Book of Experimental Might II. And that was far from the end of his game-writing career. I'm not trying to pick on Monte, of course. And I'm probably misremembering the specifics of the chatter that accompanied the releases of those books. But the larger point still stands: in ten years or so, when Pathfinder 3 comes out, we'll be hearing about how [I]this[/I] was the game Jason Bulmahn wanted to design all along, that this is Pathfinder as it was originally intended to be, etc...and then there'll be a Pathfinder 4 ten years after that. Maybe I'm wrong, and this really is the last Pathfinder, but I honestly don't think so. I think that at this point Paizo is simply on a ten-year plan of putting out editions so that they can reset the supplement treadmill, and the idea of "this is [I]true[/I] Pathfinder" is just empty marketing that goes along with that. [/QUOTE]
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