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<blockquote data-quote="SilverfireSage" data-source="post: 7645881" data-attributes="member: 6778313">Recently picked up the Pathfinder 2e core book, and while I still reserve judgement on my impressions of the system as a whole, one thing that I can't abide is the labyrinthian nature of how the book is written. I'll give an example. Say you want to know what Wild Shape does as you make your druid. You read the druidic order Wild, which says you gain the Wild Shape druid feat. You go to the druid feats and find Wild Shape which says you gain the wild shape order spell. So you flip 300 pages to the order spells (which are different from normal spells and in a different section) and find Wild shape. It states that you can polymorph into any form listed in the spell pest form. So you flip back a hundred pages to the pest form spell, listed under the normal spells, to find that it says you can turn into any tiny animal and they all have the same stats anyway. For a player trying to get into roleplaying games for the first time, this is ridiculous. Instead of having any one of these things listed directly under the Wild Shape feat or under the Wild Shape spell, you have to flip hundreds of pages several more times to find the right thing. This is true for a lot of abilities in many of the classes, and I have no idea why these weren't simply listed with the abilities in question.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SilverfireSage, post: 7645881, member: 6778313"] Recently picked up the Pathfinder 2e core book, and while I still reserve judgement on my impressions of the system as a whole, one thing that I can't abide is the labyrinthian nature of how the book is written. I'll give an example. Say you want to know what Wild Shape does as you make your druid. You read the druidic order Wild, which says you gain the Wild Shape druid feat. You go to the druid feats and find Wild Shape which says you gain the wild shape order spell. So you flip 300 pages to the order spells (which are different from normal spells and in a different section) and find Wild shape. It states that you can polymorph into any form listed in the spell pest form. So you flip back a hundred pages to the pest form spell, listed under the normal spells, to find that it says you can turn into any tiny animal and they all have the same stats anyway. For a player trying to get into roleplaying games for the first time, this is ridiculous. Instead of having any one of these things listed directly under the Wild Shape feat or under the Wild Shape spell, you have to flip hundreds of pages several more times to find the right thing. This is true for a lot of abilities in many of the classes, and I have no idea why these weren't simply listed with the abilities in question. [/QUOTE]

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