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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7927728" data-attributes="member: 12731">Honestly, if I had new players, running PF2 would be near the bottom of my list.I consider the game suitable chiefly to players that:a) have no particular attachment to PF1b) are veteran D&D gamers that love the D&D way of playing ttrpgs. People living and breathing "dndisms".c) that are specifically hungry for crunchThat is, people who really want a game with d20-like levels of customization and ability to fulfil power fantasy......but (even grudgingly) accept d20/PF1 is broken like frak, so another game is needed. Or, as in this case, players who still would LOVE to play d20 characters, but their dungeon master flatly refuse  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":LOL:" title="Laugh    :LOL:"  data-smilie="17"data-shortname=":LOL:" /> Players, who miss the days of poring over World of Warcraft forums for theorycrafting which talent best suit their character...For everybody else, I am convinced 5E is the better game, unless you somehow think PF 1 is, in which case you should totally play that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f913.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":geek:" title="Geek    :geek:"  data-smilie="30"data-shortname=":geek:" />For newcomers to the hobby, 5E is so much more accommodating to beginners it isn't even funny to discuss PF2.Finally, of course, there's the question: "but why play D&D at all?" I am secretly convinced there are at least two types of ttrpgers: those starting out with D&D, and those starting out with other games (be they Call of Cthulhu, Runequest, MERP, or Vampire doesn't matter much).Edit: Somehow mobile emojis die in the desktop editor...</blockquote>

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