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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 8000893" data-attributes="member: 7020832">Honestly, those aren't even the best examples!Picture this.  Your party has been ambushed by an invisible stalker when you are running low on spells and are in the middle of healing.  The ranger immediately used his "Hunt Prey" on it, so he is a having a little less trouble locating it than the other characters.  The first round goes badly for the party.  Beginning of 2nd round, the ranger pulls out a dagger.  When he hits, the player says "OK, I let go of the dagger so the other characters know where the monster is".Except....that's pretty much the "Revealing Stab" feat [URL unfurl="true"]https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=384[/URL].How about this?  A character asks if he can disguise the fact that he is casting a magic spell.  Well, a DM might be tempted to allow this, but make it really difficult.  "You can certainly try..." the DM says, "but you will first have to make a Deception check opposed by the target's Perception to hide the verbal components, then a second Stealth check opposed by the target's Perception to hide the somatic effects."  But wait!  That is the "Conceal Spell" feat [URL unfurl="true"]https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=640[/URL]), and that is a Wizard exclusive.Arguably, the situation is even worse in the second case: if the DM allows it despite the fact that the feat already exists, guess what?  Bards and rogues are now better at concealing magic than wizards, the only class that is supposed to be able to.Can I play a musical instrument to distract the guards while the rogue sneaks in the background?  Do you have the "Fascinating Performance" feat?  Even if you do, unless you are an Expert in Performance, you will only affect one guard?  I'm a cleric of Sarenrae, do I really need to roll a Religion check to remember the tenets of my own faith?  "Student of Canon" suggests you do.  I want to play my pan flute to impress the dryad.  Do you have the "Impressive Performance" feat?  When meeting a group of people for the first time, can I try to impress all of them?  Do you have the "Group Impression" feat (which at Expert level, allows you to impress 4 people at the same time)?  (Side note - Is that what passes as an Expert in Diplomacy these days? You can impress a whole 4 people at a time?)As a DM, my instinct when a character comes up with something is "Yes, and..." or "You can certainly try...", but Pathfinder 2 makes it difficult.I would also like to point out that there is a flip side the coin.  One side is addressed above: rules prevent the characters from doing things that by all rights, they should be permitted to at least try.  The other side is this: the rules clearly allowing characters to do things that don't make sense (and in my case, breaking my immersion in the game).We are running "Fall of Plaguestone".  After much difficulty, we confront the first boss (SPOILERS!), [HIDE]Hallod[/HIDE], a named, humanoid opponent.  What's the first thing my wizard character does?  I Recall Knowledge on this person I never met before.  OK.  Guess what?  As a wizard with a high intelligence, I am better placed to know that we are fighting a fighter than the archer/fighter standing next to me.</blockquote>

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