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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 8001211" data-attributes="member: 957">I think the pro-2E comments are completely valid at face value.  But the flaw is that they look at the game in a vacuum.If there were no other TTRPGs in the world and I had PF2E, I expect I'd be thrilled.But there are other games.  And PF2E is held to the standard of doing a BETTER job of delivering fun and fulfillment at the table than the other choices available.</blockquote>