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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8001297" data-attributes="member: 12731">Both my casters (one Wizard, one Cleric) uses Electric Arc almost exclusively (amongst their cantrips). Not only does it avoid having to make spell attack (where a miss means zero damage and not half damage), it also targets two creatures, not one. So the fire or cold cantrips deal three or four times as much damage, right? No - they deal comparable damage! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what?    o_O"  data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" />That said...Even though the cantrip situation is a clear and unequivocal bungle on Paizo's side I wouldn't draw too big conclusions on that. Celt is right that PF2 is overall the (by far) more balanced game.</blockquote>