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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 8002255" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>bummer</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, there are a lot of real complaints about PF2E. Go digging through this forum and find me three quotes of people saying that is their problem with the game.</p><p>Please address the actual complaints. Or, as I said before just don't. But this repeated strawman argument is pointless. You keep pointing at Jack and Suzy over there and claiming they are afraid fo the game. Jack and Suzy beg to differ. And it is insulting to impose that on people with honest opinions which are not aligned with yours.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not saying the game are the same. I'm saying the marketplace reactions are following a somewhat similar path. </p><p></p><p>Don't talk about "spin" when you keep putting the "fear" word in other people's mouths.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't doubt it.</p><p>But the problem is your assessment of the wide audience is reached by assuming you can extrapolate entirely from your own taste.</p><p>My assessment is based on what other people are saying and looking at the world around me.</p><p>Seriously, my personal issues with PF2E don't even seems to be in the majority camp of reasons why people are not adopting.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Time will tell, but I think it is safe to say that false claims of fear and imposing your personal tastes onto the market at large are both flawed assessments.</p><p></p><p>And, again, there you go with the "ooh its soo big" thing. You are literally talking about how <em>to you</em> the simplicity is a saving grace compared to PF. And yet you are fixated on PF fans being intimidated. It is nonsense. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, regardless of how different 4E and PF2E are, it is correct to point out that 4E was way more popular at this point. And the trends look similar.</p><p></p><p>You can close out with slams against PF all you want. Unlike you, I'm totally comfortable with the fact that different games appeal to different people and I don't mind people disliking PF for reasons that make total sense to them. As I already said, if you say PF2E is awesome for you, then I take that at face value. But slamming a nearly 20 year old game won't do anything to make PF2E more popular.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 8002255, member: 957"] bummer Again, there are a lot of real complaints about PF2E. Go digging through this forum and find me three quotes of people saying that is their problem with the game. Please address the actual complaints. Or, as I said before just don't. But this repeated strawman argument is pointless. You keep pointing at Jack and Suzy over there and claiming they are afraid fo the game. Jack and Suzy beg to differ. And it is insulting to impose that on people with honest opinions which are not aligned with yours. I'm not saying the game are the same. I'm saying the marketplace reactions are following a somewhat similar path. Don't talk about "spin" when you keep putting the "fear" word in other people's mouths. I don't doubt it. But the problem is your assessment of the wide audience is reached by assuming you can extrapolate entirely from your own taste. My assessment is based on what other people are saying and looking at the world around me. Seriously, my personal issues with PF2E don't even seems to be in the majority camp of reasons why people are not adopting. Time will tell, but I think it is safe to say that false claims of fear and imposing your personal tastes onto the market at large are both flawed assessments. And, again, there you go with the "ooh its soo big" thing. You are literally talking about how [I]to you[/I] the simplicity is a saving grace compared to PF. And yet you are fixated on PF fans being intimidated. It is nonsense. Again, regardless of how different 4E and PF2E are, it is correct to point out that 4E was way more popular at this point. And the trends look similar. You can close out with slams against PF all you want. Unlike you, I'm totally comfortable with the fact that different games appeal to different people and I don't mind people disliking PF for reasons that make total sense to them. As I already said, if you say PF2E is awesome for you, then I take that at face value. But slamming a nearly 20 year old game won't do anything to make PF2E more popular. [/QUOTE]
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