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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Teemu" data-source="post: 8419397" data-attributes="member: 30788">I’ve been using a skill challenge based retreat system in two of my 4e games for about three years now. At any point during a player’s turn the party can end combat and move to a retreat scene. It’s always the shortest challenge (4 successes) and its level is equal to the highest level enemy in the encounter. The retreat always succeeds but it also always costs 1 healing surge from all party members (fatigue, loss of morale, etc.). Failed checks also cost resources, and I use the injury variant for failures after the first (first being a surge). Failing a check by 5 or more costs an extra surge.It’s worked extremely well. The skill challenge is quick to resolve, the players can push on during an adventure since a retreat is always on the table, and I as the GM have more freedom in encounter building since I know the party can escape if the fight is too tough.I’m planning on adapting this to PF2 using Victory Points to come up with a Retreat subsystem. Coming up with costs is a bit tougher since PF2 doesn’t have a similar daily resource or an injury variant, but I’m thinking of marrying it with a modified Stamina ruleset where Resolve is used as a currency. And I’ll probably include the fatigued condition as a failure option.</blockquote>