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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8425882" data-attributes="member: 12731">There are far too many such rules.If you say &quot;sure you're a high level fighter of course you can climb with a weapon in hand&quot; you're shafted by the rules design.If the general rule allowed you to try stuff; though you needed to make a level-appropriate skill check to pull it off (and being untrained gave you a reduced rather than a non-existent chance), then and only then would feats like Combat Climber make sense.Then the benefit wouldn't be &quot;you can do something not even a level 20 hero or monster can do&quot;. Instead it would be &quot;you get to skip a very specific check where everybody else stands a risk of failure&quot;.I believe I have discussed Cloud Jump. It is inexcusable to me to add a feat where any long-jumping contest is an automatic win for a hero with the feat. Monsters can't have feats so monsters simply cannot compete. Such discrete instances really plague the rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8425882, member: 12731"] There are far too many such rules. If you say "sure you're a high level fighter of course you can climb with a weapon in hand" you're shafted by the rules design. If the general rule allowed you to try stuff; though you needed to make a level-appropriate skill check to pull it off (and being untrained gave you a reduced rather than a non-existent chance), then and only then would feats like Combat Climber make sense. Then the benefit wouldn't be "you can do something not even a level 20 hero or monster can do". Instead it would be "you get to skip a very specific check where everybody else stands a risk of failure". I believe I have discussed Cloud Jump. It is inexcusable to me to add a feat where any long-jumping contest is an automatic win for a hero with the feat. Monsters can't have feats so monsters simply cannot compete. Such discrete instances really plague the rules. [/QUOTE]

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