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<blockquote data-quote="Acolyte of Zothique" data-source="post: 7816423" data-attributes="member: 6852701"><p>It is warring when you use adversarial/inflammatory language like 'Inflict'; 'indefensibly ridiculous' and 'egrarious faults'. By using this language in the post above you have managed to contradict your opening statement within the same post. That is very... impressive?</p><p></p><p>Also, you are so completely wrong about the game not being immediately playable that I find that statement bordering on the hysterical. I am a veteran of 3.0 and 3.5 (not to mention AD&D2E) and I have been running 5e since 2015. My objective experience with 5e, not to mention every other 5e DM I know at the Meetups I attend, proves you to be wrong in generalising. You do not find 5e immediately playable. There's nothing wrong with that but that is your experience and does not call for you to attack 5e. Why not play up the virtues of PF2E instead? I have tried running PF1E; I do not find that game immediately playable but you don't see me attacking that game. Similarly, running 3.5 proved to be a major headache due to crunchy rules but I don't attack 3.5 either.</p><p></p><p>Let's just say we agree to disagree on 5e and leave it at that; you've made your subjective personally biased views on 5e more than well known.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Acolyte of Zothique, post: 7816423, member: 6852701"] It is warring when you use adversarial/inflammatory language like 'Inflict'; 'indefensibly ridiculous' and 'egrarious faults'. By using this language in the post above you have managed to contradict your opening statement within the same post. That is very... impressive? Also, you are so completely wrong about the game not being immediately playable that I find that statement bordering on the hysterical. I am a veteran of 3.0 and 3.5 (not to mention AD&D2E) and I have been running 5e since 2015. My objective experience with 5e, not to mention every other 5e DM I know at the Meetups I attend, proves you to be wrong in generalising. You do not find 5e immediately playable. There's nothing wrong with that but that is your experience and does not call for you to attack 5e. Why not play up the virtues of PF2E instead? I have tried running PF1E; I do not find that game immediately playable but you don't see me attacking that game. Similarly, running 3.5 proved to be a major headache due to crunchy rules but I don't attack 3.5 either. Let's just say we agree to disagree on 5e and leave it at that; you've made your subjective personally biased views on 5e more than well known. [/QUOTE]
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