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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7896107" data-attributes="member: 83242">Hmm. I guess I think your wrong.  Perhaps you are jaded by some comments and seeing a particular view point in all comments.That is definitely a mischaracterization.  There are things he doesn't like about PF2e, but there are things he absolutely loves about it.  My perspective would be:  he likes the game, but doesn't see it as a good market choiceThere is one thread about that (and it sometimes bleeds into others), with many posters commenting about how well it is doing as well.  I personally comment about my concern because I am interested in PF2e and don't want to see it go away.  In fact, I just recently picked up some tools to make homebrew PF2e monsters. I again think that is a miss-characterization.  I personally asked a poster to respond on-topic in this thread because I was interested in their opinion of the OP.  And you know what, they replied to my post with a very insightful and helpful post about the warm response to PF2e in the broader community.  From my perspective it was one of the best and most help post in this entire thread, and I wouldn't have gotten that information if I hadn't asked.  I wasn't trying to be an ass, I was genuinely curious and I was trying to be helpful. I will admit that many of the supporters seem to have left, but this very thread and others I have been participating in have several posters discussing trying out PF2e for the first time.  If the supporters leave, you are left mostly with detractors, but I think it is pretty even if not more supports still. I'm fine with the discussion, though I wish there was more, and dissenting views don't bother me.  Discussion is boring if everyone agrees.  I just wish their where more champions of the system posting.  I find it interesting that you single C-zapp as a detractor and I think he is one of the biggest supporters of PF2e.  Heck he left 5e for PF2e and blasts WotC all time in the D&D boards.</blockquote>

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