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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7901885" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Wasn't a vocal minority. More people went and played and bought Pathfinder than 4E.That excludes people who stuck with 3.5 or just stopped playing.2010 outsold.[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5le0w?Paizo-Publishings-10th-Anniversary[/URL]Online more people ended up playing 3.5 than 4E and Tweet who designed 4E is on record on his Grandfather Fish AMA calling 4E a disaster.Art and Arcana also write about 4E and yeah confirms it and that was printed by WotC themselves.The 4E was successful thing was pushed by board members in denial, not supported by any evidence whatsoever and at the time they called fake news when evidence in favor of Paizo was presented.4E using 3rd place online for D&amp;D online, OSR is bigger but split over several editions and clones. 5th place if you count Pathfinder as D&amp;D so it's beaten by 5E, 3.5, Pathfinder 1 &amp;2, OSR combined and us barely more popular than 1E by itself.It gives you a relative idea of the collapse of the 4E playerbase.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7901885, member: 6716779"] Wasn't a vocal minority. More people went and played and bought Pathfinder than 4E. That excludes people who stuck with 3.5 or just stopped playing. 2010 outsold. [URL unfurl="true"]https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5le0w?Paizo-Publishings-10th-Anniversary[/URL] Online more people ended up playing 3.5 than 4E and Tweet who designed 4E is on record on his Grandfather Fish AMA calling 4E a disaster. Art and Arcana also write about 4E and yeah confirms it and that was printed by WotC themselves. The 4E was successful thing was pushed by board members in denial, not supported by any evidence whatsoever and at the time they called fake news when evidence in favor of Paizo was presented. 4E using 3rd place online for D&D online, OSR is bigger but split over several editions and clones. 5th place if you count Pathfinder as D&D so it's beaten by 5E, 3.5, Pathfinder 1 &2, OSR combined and us barely more popular than 1E by itself. It gives you a relative idea of the collapse of the 4E playerbase. [/QUOTE]

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