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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7908711" data-attributes="member: 5142">When I said, "I have not seen anything about PF2 that would antithetical to what you think RPGs are about," you responded that you have and noted as such prior. But such a criteria as it applies to PF2 would by consequence exclude a number of other TTRPGs in our hobby. So regardless of whether or not you said it is antithetical to the wider hobby or not is irrelevant. What matters here is how your statement regarding PF2 would likewise potentially exclude other TTRPGs in the wider hobby. It's an implication present in your statement. "To me" does not somehow make a statement into (a) an opinion about preference or (b) above reproach. The statement "to me a hot dog is not a sandwich" is not a statement of preference about hot dogs but an argument about whether a hot dog constitutes, or qualifies as, a sandwich. Stating what you believe constitutes an RPG and that PF2 fails to qualify as one isn't a statement of preference, but an argument of constituency. It's essentially a syllogism masquerading as an opinion of preference. And it seems that if your criteria excludes PF2 as a RPG, given that you claim it is antithetical to an RPG, then that would by consequence exclude a lot of other TTRPGs. This is why your argument, which you claim is a mere statement of "preference," comes across as problematic, toxic gatekeeping regarding the wider hobby. You may not have intended it to be such, but it most definitely reads as such to me. Sure, but your post does not read as a rote difference of preference but as a positive argument about what constitutes an RPG and whether PF2 qualifies as a RPG based on your self-selected criteria. <img src="https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/645/713/888.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />If you find that you are regularly facing this problem, then perhaps you should work on improving how you word and communicate things. Just a piece of friendly advice from someone who has been in a similar position. You may rephrase your original statement such that it actually does so, yes. But if you are persistent in the viewpoint that PF2 is not a RPG, then I will remain of the viewpoint that your said viewpoint is toxic gatekeeping that should be challenged.</blockquote>

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