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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 7910084" data-attributes="member: 957">YOUR WORDS were:  "I have not seen anything about PF2 that would antithetical to what you think RPGs are about. " (emphasis mine).And that phrasing is completely consistent with the prior context.  Nowhere have I suggested that my opinions apply to the "the hobby".  And you can find me stressing that point frequently in recent posts.You are misrepresenting what I said rather dramatically and I'd appreciate it if you would acknowledge that.Again, you are ignoring all context and my repeated praise for both 4E and PF2E for their service to certain playstyles.  I don't know if you are simply not paying attention or or you are doing this intentionally, but it fails to meet any basic  review of the full conversation.As to "is it me or is it the kids?"   That is very much the point.  As I stated above, 5E CLEARLY shows that I am out of step to some degree.  And I'm cool with that.  But, this thread is about the reception of PF2E.  And I went down this same debate path when 4E was new and shiny.  I believe that there are a lot of people of love PF2E, but I also believe that there are a lot of people who are turned off by it for a lot of reasons.Saying that a complaint is simply being out of touch when the system itself doesn't seem to represent "being in touch" is more a matter of putting ones head in the sand.Is it too late to expand the appeal of PF2E?  I don't know.  Maybe.  But agreeing that expanse would be of value is a mandatory first step.  Or, as I also said above, you can follow the pattern of saying that people who don't like PF2E simply are not needed.  And then it will be up to you to blame them or reconsider in the not too distant future.Please stop putting words in my mouth.  Please quote anywhere that a reader can go look at the full context and see that I in any way claimed PF2E was "not an RPG".Please do that, and seriously, not removing context.  Or I'll accept your apology.  Or, I'll just assume that you don't like the point I'm making, but you can't engage that so you are intentionally being dishonest.I'm ok with any of those.</blockquote>

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