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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 8137829" data-attributes="member: 42040">It's a vastly different landscape now than when 4e was released. First off, just taking from the table the widescale adoption of 5e compared to 4e, look at the OGL for 5e. Sure it's a little more restrictive than the one for 3rd edition, but nowhere near what came out for 4e. Paizo's entire product line was based around hitching to WotC's highly successful 3rd edition. Why they wouldn't want to do the same now is beyond me. And if Hasbro were to sell D&D and 5th edition would be ended - hell, that's the perfect storm for Paizo to have a rebirth as industry leaders. They would be the largest company still producing content for the most successful edition of D&D that had ever been released. Hitching to Savage Worlds is more risky than that. Pinnacle is a mom and pop business compared to WotC. But making an AP conversion for Savage Worlds is a low risk. The same would be true for a 5e conversion. There is absolutely nothing in the OGL saying that Paizo cannot produce material for their house system (PF2), Savage Worlds (or any other system), AND 5e. (Frog God Games does this; Monte Cook Games does this; Troll Lord Games does this; Legendary Games does this.) Paizo has the official numbers. I can only glean a little bit of data from what's reported online and my anecdotal experience, which indicates that PF2 is DOA. If it's not, that's great news for Paizo - but I would like to see more evidence in the form of increased 3PP support, better VTT integration, more PFS events (if it means the staff need to run the games to get them out there, then make your staff run the damn promo games). Right now PF2 seems very half-assed when it should be taking the gaming world by storm. If not, drop the thing and move on. We're nearly a year and a half into the new system. If it continues to stay at 1.5% on Roll20 (compared to 4% for the decade-old PF1); if Society Games continue to focus on Starfinder; if major 3PP keep releasing only PF1 material, then it might be time to rethink what you're doing.</blockquote>

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