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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GregoryOatmeal" data-source="post: 5689969" data-attributes="member: 6667661">I would hope they would start with 3.5 and include as many of the better 4E innovations as possible without breaking 3.5 compatibility. For example- Rules for converting 3.5 saves to 4E defenses- Try to balance fighters/wizards and all classes without removing their unique feel.- Add rituals- Move to a point-buy version of 4E skills- Remove random hit dice- Page 42 damage tables are excellent- Move away from CRs to a more logical XP systemI suspect all of these things could be done in a way that preserves the math of 3.5 and allows a DM to use resources such as adventures and monster booksThe following are absolute deal-breakers for me- Requiring internet subscriptions or computer tools- Long combats. High hit points and healing surges are also a huge turn-off since they drive numbers up, prolong combat and break compatibility with the 3.5 products most gamers seem to own. I'll definitely take the 15-minute adventuring day- 4E "gamist" feel. Barbarians shouldn't get a skill point in arcana every two levels. I tried for years to get my players to narrate their actions and explain why they have "daily powers" - they just didn't. Rather than saying what they're doing combat was always "Now I'm going to use my at-will ferocious strike power". I know that's not how you're supposed to play 4E but it just tends to happen that way for some reason.</blockquote>