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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 5691407"><p>I think it is fair to wonder if Monte can strike gold twice. The pressure alone has to be staggering. It is easy for designers to shout from the sidelines WOTC should do this or that for 5E, another to actually design the thing and please the D&D audience. However I don't know about "past their prime", I mean it isn't football or boxing. Sure I think all designers fall into a rut (especially once they get their own company and only have themselves as a critic), but this is exactly the kind of job that should re-ignite a designer's passions for the game. Even if 5E totally falls short or bombs I am very curious to see what Monte comes up with. </p><p> </p><p>I think there is another thing at work here with Monte at the helm. There is a lot of good will out there for monte. I don't know why, but gamers seem to love him and always assume he is on their side of a given debate. I think this will work in their favor. It will soften some peoples' initial reaction to 5E. </p><p> </p><p>All that said though, I think you are right to be skeptical given the reality of the brand. The market is fractured, and none of us know what design directions he has been given by Wizards. If they say, "make it like 1E for a post 3E world" he has to do that. If they say "make it 4E compatible, but make it appeal to Pathfinder fans" he has to do that as well. He could be getting some impossible goals. Even if he has total creative control, I am having trouble seeing how you bring together the people who like 4E and the people who like 3E. It seems that now that the divide is here, people know what they like. A new edition could just enfuriate the 4E fans, and only bring back a trickle of the 3E fans (who have pathfinder now).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 5691407"] I think it is fair to wonder if Monte can strike gold twice. The pressure alone has to be staggering. It is easy for designers to shout from the sidelines WOTC should do this or that for 5E, another to actually design the thing and please the D&D audience. However I don't know about "past their prime", I mean it isn't football or boxing. Sure I think all designers fall into a rut (especially once they get their own company and only have themselves as a critic), but this is exactly the kind of job that should re-ignite a designer's passions for the game. Even if 5E totally falls short or bombs I am very curious to see what Monte comes up with. I think there is another thing at work here with Monte at the helm. There is a lot of good will out there for monte. I don't know why, but gamers seem to love him and always assume he is on their side of a given debate. I think this will work in their favor. It will soften some peoples' initial reaction to 5E. All that said though, I think you are right to be skeptical given the reality of the brand. The market is fractured, and none of us know what design directions he has been given by Wizards. If they say, "make it like 1E for a post 3E world" he has to do that. If they say "make it 4E compatible, but make it appeal to Pathfinder fans" he has to do that as well. He could be getting some impossible goals. Even if he has total creative control, I am having trouble seeing how you bring together the people who like 4E and the people who like 3E. It seems that now that the divide is here, people know what they like. A new edition could just enfuriate the 4E fans, and only bring back a trickle of the 3E fans (who have pathfinder now). [/QUOTE]
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