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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kvantum" data-source="post: 5323218" data-attributes="member: 1905">Do keep in mind that the "official" rules in Pf #35 are just a quick and dirty little system to handle a few mass combats in the plot of Kingmaker, not a major, official way you'll really want to use to do things. The expanded and upgraded system is supposed to be in Ultimate Combat, a GenCon 2011 release.Assuming they don't have another editorial flameout and push it back since they're supposed to have the World Guide: Tian Xia (pseudo Asia) book out at GC, too.(I'm getting just a liiiiitle tired of Paizo's editorial issues, after all the errors in Adventurer's Armory and the APG, and the six month delay of World Guide: The Inner Sea to February.)</blockquote>