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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 8170896" data-attributes="member: 42040">Well here are a few other selling points that we sometimes don't consider that made it particularly good for new gamers.1) The D&D Starter Set had massive reach in retail stores.2) It was regularly discounted to around $14 on Amazon.Also it was released before the 5e core books, allowing groups to test out the system before potentially spending hundreds of dollars on a new game (especially after 4e lost many fans).I don't have the PF2 Beginner Box. I'm sure it's a great product since I thought that of the PF1 Beginner Box. Likely if I were to go back to PF2, I'd probably run a Beginner Box only campaign.But I don't think the 5e Starter Set should be dismissed as a bad product.</blockquote>