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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 4427969" data-attributes="member: 10177">The "Ramping up of power levels" is not bad. It looks to me like they did what they did to make staying the core class as viable as picking up PrC's or multi classing. So I don't look at it as "ramping up", but as making the Core Class so viable that taking PrC's or multi classing actually has costs, instead of power increases with no real loss/sacrifice. So I think what they did was needed, since WOTC screwed it up by making PrC's superior to the Core class.Backwards compatibility. Is it? Not 100%, probably not even 80%. But it is EASY to have it be compatible with 3E. So for ease of mix and match, its as compatible as any 3E splat book.So if you buy Pathfinder, you have to make a decision. Do I want Pathfinder as my core, or do I want the PH as my core? Choosing Pathfinder as your core will make "compatibility" much easier. Choosing the PH means your going to have to write up house rules spelling out what you do use from PF. I don't know about you, but I did that for every single splat book put out by WOTC, and I bought almost every last one of them.I agree high level play needs fixing. However to do that in a meaningful way would compromise "backwards compatibility" too much. To really make High level play work 3E needs rebuilt from the ground up in fundamental areas like DR, resistances, immunities, and saving throws.So I am hoping Paizo will do their own "High Level Play" book showing what needs to be changed, and how, in order to make high level play much more viable for 3E.They simply cannot do it in PF and maintain a decent level of compatibility with 3E Core.Over all, I like what they are doing. I like the Barbarian Rage points and Monk Ki points. I like how much better written their skills are. I like their changes to feats, even Cleave.Bottom line is Pathfinder Beta has me considering running 3E again, Pathfinder style. I never saw myself considering that again in this life time. When I finally feel I grasp their changes to "Combat" I'll know.</blockquote>

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