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<blockquote data-quote="Tervin" data-source="post: 4428471" data-attributes="member: 66491"><p>My main issues with D&D 3.x are:</p><p></p><p>1. Swingy (=crits matter too much) and unfun (=not enough options for players) gameplay during low levels, making it unnecessarily difficult as a DM to run fun sessions.</p><p>2. Swingy (=saves matter too much) and clunky (=too many options for players and opponents) gameplay during high levels, making DMing a real pain.</p><p>3. Too many multiclass options too weak, others way too strong.</p><p>4. Prestige classes and feats from splat books (not mention 3pp books...)often not nearly balanced enough. </p><p>5. Bland races that really feel more like humans from another culture than separate species.</p><p>6. Creating NPCs and important monsters = way too much work.</p><p></p><p>Smaller issues:</p><p>1. Summoning, illusions and polymorph are too powerful or too much depending on DM decisions.</p><p>2. Grapple, as it is, needs to be ignored and winged - which really is easy enough to do.</p><p>3. Skills don't matter for most characters once you have decently powerful spellcasters in the party.</p><p></p><p>On the whole though, 3.x is a really good RPG. After a quick look at Pathfinder it seems like it could also be a real good RPG. Regrettably it doesn't seem to be much better at dealing with my main issues with 3.x. And the changes outisde of those things I had issues with often feel random and like that guy's homebrew that you always felt was a lot of work for no real result.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tervin, post: 4428471, member: 66491"] My main issues with D&D 3.x are: 1. Swingy (=crits matter too much) and unfun (=not enough options for players) gameplay during low levels, making it unnecessarily difficult as a DM to run fun sessions. 2. Swingy (=saves matter too much) and clunky (=too many options for players and opponents) gameplay during high levels, making DMing a real pain. 3. Too many multiclass options too weak, others way too strong. 4. Prestige classes and feats from splat books (not mention 3pp books...)often not nearly balanced enough. 5. Bland races that really feel more like humans from another culture than separate species. 6. Creating NPCs and important monsters = way too much work. Smaller issues: 1. Summoning, illusions and polymorph are too powerful or too much depending on DM decisions. 2. Grapple, as it is, needs to be ignored and winged - which really is easy enough to do. 3. Skills don't matter for most characters once you have decently powerful spellcasters in the party. On the whole though, 3.x is a really good RPG. After a quick look at Pathfinder it seems like it could also be a real good RPG. Regrettably it doesn't seem to be much better at dealing with my main issues with 3.x. And the changes outisde of those things I had issues with often feel random and like that guy's homebrew that you always felt was a lot of work for no real result. [/QUOTE]
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