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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 4428477" data-attributes="member: 22424">I haven't yet read the Beta - I don't like reading large blocks of text on-screen, so will wait until I can get a hard copy.That sounds unfortunately like I had expected.Yeah, I had hoped they'd do something with these. However, I'm reasonably convinced that doing so requires a fundamental redesign of quite a lot of the underlying math, which loses all hope of backwards compatibility.I thought WotC used the right methods in the desig of 4e (take the game apart and rebuild); it's just the results I'm not yet sold on.Having not yet read the Beta, I can't comment. What worried me about the Alpha, though, was that we seemed to be getting yet another round of power-creep, especially at low level (which is only going to make high level play that much worse). Since Pathfinder is primarily intended to keep the core rules in print, I would have thought just keeping the power levels the same (except where change was needed to eliminate imbalances) would have been fine.I would probably have wanted to do something with Combat Expertise (or maybe Power Attack instead). Otherwise, I agree that that should have been their mantra.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 4428477, member: 22424"] I haven't yet read the Beta - I don't like reading large blocks of text on-screen, so will wait until I can get a hard copy. That sounds unfortunately like I had expected. Yeah, I had hoped they'd do something with these. However, I'm reasonably convinced that doing so requires a fundamental redesign of quite a lot of the underlying math, which loses all hope of backwards compatibility. I thought WotC used the right methods in the desig of 4e (take the game apart and rebuild); it's just the results I'm not yet sold on. Having not yet read the Beta, I can't comment. What worried me about the Alpha, though, was that we seemed to be getting yet another round of power-creep, especially at low level (which is only going to make high level play that much worse). Since Pathfinder is primarily intended to keep the core rules in print, I would have thought just keeping the power levels the same (except where change was needed to eliminate imbalances) would have been fine. I would probably have wanted to do something with Combat Expertise (or maybe Power Attack instead). Otherwise, I agree that that should have been their mantra. [/QUOTE]

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