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<blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4428700" data-attributes="member: 4722"><p>Part of the "unwinnable grapple" syndrome is because of the goofy size bonus. I haven't tried it out with the new system yet, though. The attack bonus thing isn't the problem, really - it's the fact that character AC has a glass ceiling, because there's only so much stuff you can stack on, whereas monster HD keep scaling. Add to that the fact that monster AB/saves don't use the epic progression, and... </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm going to use it, but I was thinking of changing the first column to 3/4. Even if it doesn't grant new levels of spells, 1:1 is a bit much, IMO. 3/4, 2/3, 1/2 could work - 3/4 for full casters of the same type of magic (arcane-arcane, divine-divine), 2/3 for bards, paladins, and rangers, and casters of the opposite type, and 1/2 for non-casters. Change the spell save formula to 10 + 1/2 caster level + ability mod, and you've got a workable system.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Aha. I don't see why PF didn't boost everyone to have at least 4 skill points/level. It wouldn't have broken the system - by dropping the x4 at first level, you have to recalculate everyone's skill points anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Care to elaborate? I'm curious what you mean.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I was thinking about this last night. This is the Pathfinder RPG. It's not labeled as "D&D 3.75" or even "D&D". So... why didn't they just create a new system and say it's compatible with D&D? Then they could've made whatever changes they wanted, as radical as they wanted, and there wouldn't be any expectations or preconceptions on the part of their fans (like the ever-popular "It's D&D turned up to 11."). The WoW RPG took most of the SRD and reprinted it verbatim, but people aren't calling THAT D&D...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kerrick, post: 4428700, member: 4722"] Part of the "unwinnable grapple" syndrome is because of the goofy size bonus. I haven't tried it out with the new system yet, though. The attack bonus thing isn't the problem, really - it's the fact that character AC has a glass ceiling, because there's only so much stuff you can stack on, whereas monster HD keep scaling. Add to that the fact that monster AB/saves don't use the epic progression, and... I'm going to use it, but I was thinking of changing the first column to 3/4. Even if it doesn't grant new levels of spells, 1:1 is a bit much, IMO. 3/4, 2/3, 1/2 could work - 3/4 for full casters of the same type of magic (arcane-arcane, divine-divine), 2/3 for bards, paladins, and rangers, and casters of the opposite type, and 1/2 for non-casters. Change the spell save formula to 10 + 1/2 caster level + ability mod, and you've got a workable system. Aha. I don't see why PF didn't boost everyone to have at least 4 skill points/level. It wouldn't have broken the system - by dropping the x4 at first level, you have to recalculate everyone's skill points anyway. Care to elaborate? I'm curious what you mean. I was thinking about this last night. This is the Pathfinder RPG. It's not labeled as "D&D 3.75" or even "D&D". So... why didn't they just create a new system and say it's compatible with D&D? Then they could've made whatever changes they wanted, as radical as they wanted, and there wouldn't be any expectations or preconceptions on the part of their fans (like the ever-popular "It's D&D turned up to 11."). The WoW RPG took most of the SRD and reprinted it verbatim, but people aren't calling THAT D&D... [/QUOTE]
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