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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GlassJaw" data-source="post: 4428731" data-attributes="member: 22103">Great discussion so far.  Lots of good replies.I haven't kept up with the thread that much since I posted but I did want to address the "playtest it before you knock it" replies.After going through 3 Alpha versions and now on to Beta, that leads me to believe that what's in Beta is basically what the final version is going to look like.  I know there is still room for changes but essentially, it's there.Basically, Beta means to me that you are testing the features that are there, not addressing features that aren't.  That step of the process has already (or should have already) been decided.To put it simply:You decide from the start what features you are developing.Now that Beta is here and I see no changes to the multiclassing rules, no changes to modifier stacking, no changes to high-level play, no changes to the 15-minute adventuring day, and no changes to aid the DM, I'm assuming those "features" won't be in this release.  I assume that those things were discussed and agreed upon not to be included.And that's ok.All it means is that Pathfinder is not even close to what I was hoping it would be.</blockquote>