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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 4428953" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>I have. They didn't always give enough details, but a lot of those were in 4 PC parties. 6 PC parties and higher just had PC's go unconcious most of the time. Plus we don't know how "smartly" the healing surges and such were being used, if the number of opponents were changed by the DM, etc...</p><p></p><p>So its hard to say how many of those deaths were due to "accidents" IE weak play, or weak DMing, or due to solid play and too many rolls going against the party.</p><p></p><p>So all I can judge it by is how its been playing for my group.</p><p></p><p>Like in the battle against Irontooth, we only had two go unconcious, and even then it was because the MAge ate up all our available surges because he insisted on being in melee range and casting spells in melee range. Plus we did not have a Cleric, only a Paladin and Warlord.</p><p></p><p>So that encounter was quasi exciting for us, but more due to a reckless mage and not having a cleric. If our cleric had shown for that encounter it would have been cake.</p><p></p><p>Plus another factor for us was our DM treated each wave as a new encounter, which allowed us to get our Surges and other per encounter attacks back. So that helped. Still, if the Cleric had made the session, I think we would still have won without treating each wave as a new encounter.</p><p></p><p>So I am sure there are plenty of variables that will allow people to argue my opinions, but hey, opinions are to be argued.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 4428953, member: 10177"] I have. They didn't always give enough details, but a lot of those were in 4 PC parties. 6 PC parties and higher just had PC's go unconcious most of the time. Plus we don't know how "smartly" the healing surges and such were being used, if the number of opponents were changed by the DM, etc... So its hard to say how many of those deaths were due to "accidents" IE weak play, or weak DMing, or due to solid play and too many rolls going against the party. So all I can judge it by is how its been playing for my group. Like in the battle against Irontooth, we only had two go unconcious, and even then it was because the MAge ate up all our available surges because he insisted on being in melee range and casting spells in melee range. Plus we did not have a Cleric, only a Paladin and Warlord. So that encounter was quasi exciting for us, but more due to a reckless mage and not having a cleric. If our cleric had shown for that encounter it would have been cake. Plus another factor for us was our DM treated each wave as a new encounter, which allowed us to get our Surges and other per encounter attacks back. So that helped. Still, if the Cleric had made the session, I think we would still have won without treating each wave as a new encounter. So I am sure there are plenty of variables that will allow people to argue my opinions, but hey, opinions are to be argued. [/QUOTE]
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