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<blockquote data-quote="The Highway Man" data-source="post: 4429709" data-attributes="member: 65943">It's something that 3E is guilty of, to a lesser extent. When I say &quot;playing the rules&quot;, it's tactics like &quot;if I get up to this guy, spend three squares instead of one to avoid that guy and not suffer opportunity attacks, I'll be able to use this power, push this guy to that square, so that my budy can get up there and help the fighter.&quot; That kind of pseudo-tactics.Real tactics are in-game tactics, not metagame tactics. &quot;Alright guys. I propose that you and you go there and start a fire in the bushes. At least a part of the hobgoblins will want to check it out. Meanwhile, you Shadowthief will sneak up the ladders, that way, and see if you can reach the captain and grab the key. Any questions?&quot;You sure can do that too in 4E, but experience shows that the former type of tactics, thet metagame tactics, are prevalent in these games. It's &quot;playing the game&quot; as opposed to immersing yourself in it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Highway Man, post: 4429709, member: 65943"] It's something that 3E is guilty of, to a lesser extent. When I say "playing the rules", it's tactics like "if I get up to this guy, spend three squares instead of one to avoid that guy and not suffer opportunity attacks, I'll be able to use this power, push this guy to that square, so that my budy can get up there and help the fighter." That kind of pseudo-tactics. Real tactics are in-game tactics, not metagame tactics. "Alright guys. I propose that you and you go there and start a fire in the bushes. At least a part of the hobgoblins will want to check it out. Meanwhile, you Shadowthief will sneak up the ladders, that way, and see if you can reach the captain and grab the key. Any questions?" You sure can do that too in 4E, but experience shows that the former type of tactics, thet metagame tactics, are prevalent in these games. It's "playing the game" as opposed to immersing yourself in it. [/QUOTE]

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