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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Highway Man" data-source="post: 4429730" data-attributes="member: 65943">I disagree. Personally, when playing, I think in terms of in-character tactics. The metagame application of these tactics (i.e. use of feats, placing of the mini etc) is the consequence of this reasoning. My previous example was just that, an example. In-character tactics don't necessitate dialog between characters to exist.It is something that is easier to do with older editions of the game than 4E, because the way powers work have a higher level of abstraction ("if I hit this guy I can allow my mates to spend healing surges. If I use this power I pull this guy, while using that one I would block his movement"). You pretty much need to think in terms of rules applications first to then apply it in-game to have winning strategies. Or at least, you need to do that more than any previous edition of the game, precisely because of the higher level of abstraction of 4E's rules. Now, you might not experience it that way at your game table. Fine by me. More power to you, really. But please don't think I'm delusional in saying it. I have no way to prove it unless someone else chimes in here, but I'm far from being the only one to have witnessed this issue with 4E.Edit - I did not see your other posts while writing this one, guys. This post addresses your points indirectly. I define "metagame" as anything that is not considered in-character. Thinking in terms of rules is definitely "metagame", by this definition. It's just a word. Try to understand what I mean instead of redefining the term to suit your arguments. As for this issue existing in other editions of the game, it surely can and will happen depending on the players around the table, no question about it. My point is that 4E is built for playing the rules, and that one has basically to think in terms of rules to do anything constructive in combat.I absolutely acknowledge, by the way, that your mileage may vary.</blockquote>

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