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<blockquote data-quote="Sunderstone" data-source="post: 4431301" data-attributes="member: 23497">&quot;Fixing the transmission&quot; means the car is broken. 3.5 is not broken, if it was we would all be playing 4E (which according to many is not broken). I dont think anything in particular was &quot;overlooked&quot; either. The new Cleave is an option. Just like the section you quoted says &quot;adding options in others&quot;. If it makes sense as an option use it. If not use the old cleave, both will work just fine in the game.As far as trumped for backwards compatibility goes, I dont know about that. Some of the things you were interested in didnt apply to me. Multiclassing/caster superiority/core class balance didnt need fixing from my groups point of view. Im also realistic about Slow High level play. Its only natural as you get more and more feats, spell selections etc the game will slow down some. If they could streamline this even a little, great! Same with DM prep time, but with all the options/complexities available how much can they speed up without rewriting the entire game from the ground up.Again, alot of us are fine with 3.5. Alot of us are not. The &quot;Not Fine&quot; camp will go to 4E. The &quot;Fine&quot; camp will continue with 3.5/Pathfinder.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunderstone, post: 4431301, member: 23497"] "Fixing the transmission" means the car is broken. 3.5 is not broken, if it was we would all be playing 4E (which according to many is not broken). I dont think anything in particular was "overlooked" either. The new Cleave is an option. Just like the section you quoted says "adding options in others". If it makes sense as an option use it. If not use the old cleave, both will work just fine in the game. As far as trumped for backwards compatibility goes, I dont know about that. Some of the things you were interested in didnt apply to me. Multiclassing/caster superiority/core class balance didnt need fixing from my groups point of view. Im also realistic about Slow High level play. Its only natural as you get more and more feats, spell selections etc the game will slow down some. If they could streamline this even a little, great! Same with DM prep time, but with all the options/complexities available how much can they speed up without rewriting the entire game from the ground up. Again, alot of us are fine with 3.5. Alot of us are not. The "Not Fine" camp will go to 4E. The "Fine" camp will continue with 3.5/Pathfinder. [/QUOTE]

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