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<blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 4431453" data-attributes="member: 7394"><p>There were a lot of changes between Apha 1 and alpha 3. They said that there wouldn't be much difference between Alpha 3 and the beta. The purpose of the beta was to get the rules into a single book so people could really start playtesting it. Just doing this required an investment of time as they reformatted material, chose what to include and what not to include, and then put it to layout.</p><p></p><p>They are listening, but as far as I can tell, they're mainly listening over at the Paizo boards because the people there are trying to offer constructive criticism. Things are not perfect because the beta is not a final product. Another thing to keep in mind is that not every suggestion is going to be consistent with their design goals. Some suggestions would be great if you wanted to take the game off in a completely different direction, and they're going to veto those ideas, as they should. </p><p></p><p>Maybe the final version will not be perfect. Maybe there's no such thing as the perfect game. The one thing I know for sure is that the changes from the alpha were pretty good in actual play when I ran it at a con recently. For those of us who find that 3.5 comes up lacking, yet find that 4E is too much of a departure, Pathfinder is the best option we have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darrin Drader, post: 4431453, member: 7394"] There were a lot of changes between Apha 1 and alpha 3. They said that there wouldn't be much difference between Alpha 3 and the beta. The purpose of the beta was to get the rules into a single book so people could really start playtesting it. Just doing this required an investment of time as they reformatted material, chose what to include and what not to include, and then put it to layout. They are listening, but as far as I can tell, they're mainly listening over at the Paizo boards because the people there are trying to offer constructive criticism. Things are not perfect because the beta is not a final product. Another thing to keep in mind is that not every suggestion is going to be consistent with their design goals. Some suggestions would be great if you wanted to take the game off in a completely different direction, and they're going to veto those ideas, as they should. Maybe the final version will not be perfect. Maybe there's no such thing as the perfect game. The one thing I know for sure is that the changes from the alpha were pretty good in actual play when I ran it at a con recently. For those of us who find that 3.5 comes up lacking, yet find that 4E is too much of a departure, Pathfinder is the best option we have. [/QUOTE]
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